Yo yo. Part 4.
"4. The approval and practice of fornification are primary gospel issues: The gospel is what unites and sets apart any congregation as a Christian Church: Each member is committed to the authority of Scripture; shares the same basic doctrine; preaches the same gospel; and demonstrates the fruit of the Spirit in their walk with the Lord.
The approval or practice of sexual intimacy outside marriage and its approval are incompatible with a commitment to Scripture, the gospel and Christianity as a whole. In the epistle to the Romans. Paul speaks of God's wrath being poured out on those outside of Christ - on those who suppress the truth in their unrighteousness. He raises the practices of sexual impurity and homosexuality as direct manifestations of God's wrath. Because of men's unrighteous exchange of God's truth for a lie (Rom 1:25), "God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonoured among them" (1:24). Similarly, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passion; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the women and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error" (1:26-27). But perhaps, the climatic manifestation of God's wrath is the reality that not only are men practicing sins that they know are worthy of death, but that they also give hearty approval to those who practice them (1:32). But, these manifestations of God's wrath today pale in comparison with the judgement to come against the ungodly.
in the epistle to the Hebrews, the author exhorted them, "See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many become defiled; that there be no sexually immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. For you know that even afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it with tears" (12:15-17). He warns later, "Marriage is to be held in honour among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (13:4).
Jude also warned of "ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ" (1:4). Jude alerted them to the reality that God will eternally punish the ungodly. In that vein, he raises the example of Sodom and Gomorrah: "just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire" (1:7). In contrast to sinners like Sodom and Gomorrah, there is "no condemnation" for those who are in Christ Jesus (Rom. 8:1): God's wrath has been averted and they are no longer given over to the power of sin; rather, they have been redeemed and been set free by Jesus' death (Rom. 3:21-26).
Since the one who practices sin remains under God's wrath, the church has no fellowship with them. They cannot "associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolator, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler - not even to eat with such a one" (1 Cor. 5:11). Paul writes, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inheirit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 cor. 6:9-10) He explains, "Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" (1 Cor. 6:11)."
Ok. So, like, I know all this, I've read all this, I've heard all this before. Why does it feel like it doesn't matter? Like I said last time, ya, I do think it's unnatural. I had long conversation with a friend years ago about this sort of stuff and like, nothing they said was like a solution to anything so much as their main point which was something along the lines of "you need to be a child of God first, and then you can worry about figuring out how to obey" like, I was so concerned with how my failures and temptations were making me not good enough, and that I'd never really get over them. I spent years trying to ignore and repress these things and keep a happy face on. There were literal days I'd just go to my bed and lie face down and just try to do nothing instead of giving into temptation. I was so mad and angry at myself that I'd never be good enough. Even when I better understood that God's grace is what makes me good enough, not me, I still felt so guilty and bad for how I'd continually misuse that grace. I would pray. I would beg for strength to overcome temptation and just end up giving in again. The goal is purity. "Be perfect as I am." He alone is the one who can purify. And it just wasn't getting anywhere. Maybe it's because my heart is hard right now. Maybe it's because I'm a bit distant from God and tired of just playing Christian. But I need to do something different for a bit.
What does intimacy with God look like? I asked that once back when I was living with LD and struggling super hard with temptation and asking in what ways God could satisfy me that would make temptation not worth it. The answer was "go to bed". And that was like the closest I'd ever been to knowing what being close with God was. And then not long later I made a bunch of bad decisions.
How can there be churches that affirm same sex relationships? What does that look like? How do they justify it? I want to be able to do good and feel good. I don't want to let anyone down, but I feel like I've been letting myself down for years. Love your neighbours as yourself. I want to be able to be proud of myself and love myself and love God and love others.
'They will say to me on that day "didn't we do this and this good deed in your name?" and I'll say I never knew you, depart from me.' When I look back on the last decade, I think there's been a good number of times where I feel like I was understanding what God wanted from me, and like legitimately wrestling with following Him, but wanting to. When I look at more like the last 5 years, it feels much more like "I know I should be doing good, but I have no motivation to do so." Like God has been distant. I have been distant. But I've been doing what I should because I should and slowly getting more frustrated and isolated. If something is going to suddenly change and make me want to work hard to be good and somehow at the same time make room for me to be able to love myself while doing it, I need it to happen soon because I feel so much more alive and free right now than I have in a long time. I feel so much more able to show love to others authentically.
If that means I have to be excluded from some places, maybe that's ok. Idk yet though.
I will say though, I do really appreciate that I have friends who are willing to say hard things to me. I do appreciate that this 7 page letter was typed out and sent to me by mail. Even if I'm kinda hating writing these posts because the topics are so serious and I don't have good answers, I still need to hear it and I need to give a response, if just a poorly formed one that doesn't really answer the question.
And with that I think I'm done with this section for now. I don't know how to justify same sex relationships while upholding the Scripture. But I'm happy where I am right now and want to find something that can make it all make sense.
D.Fa
PS. I did read through Genesis the other day and reading about Esau did make me think of Hebrews where it calls us out not to give over our birthright for some soup. "what good is my birthright if I'm dead? Just give me some soup". 'What good is eternity with God when I'm upset at God for making my personal present life so much suffering?' Or some sort of analogy like that. idk.